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Hydrogen Motorcycle

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:10 pm
by Phrazz
Put that in your tailpipe and smoke it!

http://www.envbike.com/

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:16 am
by Big Bob
that is pretty sweet. where would one be able to find a refueling station for an envbike?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:20 am
by Cleantone
where would one be able to find a refueling station for an envbike?
As soon as were out of oil they will spring up everywhere.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:51 am
by francis
Cleantone wrote:
where would one be able to find a refueling station for an envbike?
As soon as were out of oil they will spring up everywhere.
i would like to hope they would plan this out before then

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:56 am
by Pstehley
Actually.. Air Products has one set up outside of Washington DC, in conjunction with Texaco (I think) for trials of cars.. ( I think they give them to senators to drive or something... ) I don't exactly remember, and given that I don't work there anymore, it's a little more difficult to ask.. but I'm sure you could look it up online...

h2gen

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:23 pm
by Phrazz
http://www.h2gen.com/

Still looking for Air Products...

Right now, h2 generation is still "dirty" (grid-based) for the most part. However, as wind farms proliferate and the greener oil companies start switching to renewables (geo, hydro, solar, wind, biomass), we'll see direct h2 production from these sources (already starting).

There's a very large wind array being installed in the North Sea. These become more attractive with mass production and increased efficiency technology. We don't have to wait until the oil runs out: it's already pricey enough that other fuel sources are commercially attractive. Ethanol is a good example of this transition well underway, which is largely replacing MTBE across the country and Ford, GM and Toyota all have conversions that use a mix of ethanol and gas and eventually will run on 100% ethanol, which now costs less than a buck a gallon to produce.

My ride (hybrid Escape) has a converter coming out in a year or two that will run on any percentage mix of gas and alcohol along with the electric that's generated from braking. If they start putting solar cells on the roof, even better. Every little bit counts and leads us in the right direction.

However, the transition is going to be painful to those who need muscle cars or other "ego" vehicles (Hummers, Monster Trucks, etc). But even these trends are seen as less fashionable and in some cases (France, etc), vandalism may encourage people to drive smaller vehicles.

The other big push which I haven't seen yet is to make cities more bike-friendly. This is not so easy in a congested metropolis like New York, but for the wider urban areas, some of the more innovative cities are putting bike lanes in strategic travel zones. Fortunately, DC is a very "bike-friendly" city if you know how to navigate Rock Creek Park and surrounding trails (exclusively for bikes, though these pesky joggers sometimes get in the way... ;-}).

-Phrazz

Oh yeah...check this Shelby Cobra that runs on Hydrogen:

http://www.clean-air.org/Hydrogen%20Cob ... 0Cobra.htm

Too bad the 3600-psi tank is only good for about five minutes!

It's a start.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:44 pm
by fourthaye
Necesity is the mother of invention