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Unraveling the "Eisenhower" Mystery . . . ?
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:55 pm
by GeMeNeYe
So what's with the "Eisenhower" title and the llama/alpaca-looking creature on the cover?
Here's a clue: It's probably not a llama, but a vicuna (part of the Camelidae family) and here's the story behind it --->
"In 1958 vicuña was on everybody’s lips. President Eisenhower’s favorite golfing buddy and Chief of Staff Sherman Adams got the boot after reporters learned that he had accepted various sumptuous finery, most famously a vicuña coat, from a certain Boston textile magnate named Bernie Goldfine in exchange for some extra lenient treatment by federal regulators."
http://www.curiousnotions.com/curiosity-005.html
"A little less jack," eh?
I bet Fall is nice in Canada, too.
G
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:17 pm
by Dan
two huge thumbs up for that
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:18 pm
by Colin
someone did their homework...
how often do u see that much research into a album name??
another two huge thumbs up
Interesting....
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:16 am
by mjm
From:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/ed ... edit_x.htm
Ike and a vicuna coat. The scandal of the past that most closely resembles the current uproar over lobbying excesses is the one that struck the Eisenhower administration in June 1958. At that time, House Democrats charged that a Boston businessman — Bernard Goldfine, who was having problems with the Securities and Exchange Commission — had paid hotel bills for Eisenhower's chief of staff, Sherman Adams, and given Adams an expensive vicuna coat. Adams, in turn, interceded for Goldfine with the SEC.
The Democrats trumpeted the corruption theme, and the second Eisenhower midterm election in 1958 became a GOP debacle, one of the worst losses for a president's party that century. This election is often described as a turning point in American politics because liberal Democrats replaced so many conservative Republicans. Richard Nixon, then Eisenhower's vice president, wrote that, "Nov. 4, 1958, was one of the most depressing election nights I have ever known."
What undoubtedly caused the sky to fall on the GOP was not the Adams scandal but the worst recession since the end of World War II. In October 1957, the stock market had its sharpest decline since the one following Eisenhower's heart attack in 1955. Unemployment surged while consumer prices actually rose. Compared with this economic cataclysm, the hotel bills and the vicuna coat were blips on the voters' screens.
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:56 pm
by U-Top
I still think it's an odd choice for a name -- Eisenhower was a Republican and the vicuna situation was among many other deplorable actions during that time. Why name the album after something scandalous -- I understand the symbolism, but isn't this kind of like naming something "4th Amendment" with a picture of Dylan Klebold if you're trying to make a statement for gun control?
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:41 pm
by Dan
to throw you off... the cover image is a gazelle (affrica continent)
words from on of the "men"
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:33 am
by jb
to clarify what Dan said, this theory is interesting but purely a coincidence...the cover image is a gazelle (which resides in africa)...
vicuna vs gazelle
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:42 am
by Phrazz
Thanks for clarifying that point about four-legged furry creatures that resemble each other.
Also I'm curious about the title and whether this was meant to make people think or as a specific reference. "Eisenhower" is a well-known name, but he was largely a failure during his tenure in office. Even in Europe he had others handle the major battles (Patton, Montgomery, MacArthur).
Kudos again to BAM and Matthew Ellard for getting this baby finished in time for the holidays! I hope this makes the top of everyone's gift list.
-Phrazz
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:56 pm
by putty
actually, that's Andrew's pet gazelle, Eisenhower. he also has an emu named Nixon and a possom they affectionately call Dubya.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:24 am
by bitchtits
poop
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:18 am
by diesel
bitchtits wrote:wheres the nye 04 discs????
theyre available on rhapsody. use the search features and stay on topic.
what's a topic?
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:37 am
by lol
I hear what you're saying, but that won't help my ADD.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:39 am
by etahn
Makes me think of this:
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/ ... ndust.html
"Beware the military-industrial complex"
Re: vicuna vs gazelle
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:16 pm
by ScS
Phrazz wrote:Kudos again to BAM and Matthew Ellard for getting this baby finished in time for the holidays! I hope this makes the top of everyone's gift list.
already pre-ordered.
let the rigging begin
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:44 pm
by king george
Even though Ike is ready to bomb Iran, not sure we can stop all the voting machine rigging. Anyone read Bobby Jr's articles in Rolling Stone? All hope is lost if the votes are easily mis-counted.
I won't cast my vote for the new album until I hear it.