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I know man. I knew that Brad and Mike would be playing and I still didn't go. Luckily I let one of the only tapers I know up there know that he needed to go. Unfortunaly he didn't want to deal with the sweet spot and recorded from the console area. He said it came out good cause they were really loud. Should be on archive within days I hope.Now I am so goddamn jealous of those that made it there!
Rob Grego does great work
This is my favorite:
It ain't easy getting everyone in the shot like that. I'm guessing they had little Xs to stand on stage to make that one work. ;-}
What a friggin' lineup and show! Next time I get plane tix....
-Phrazz
It ain't easy getting everyone in the shot like that. I'm guessing they had little Xs to stand on stage to make that one work. ;-}
What a friggin' lineup and show! Next time I get plane tix....
-Phrazz
Hey all - thanks for the cool comments... I took those shots.
So bouche... how many shots do you think you would have taken? I got just under 400 myself. My server is only so big though, so I've gotta conserve space for more shows! I hate having to narrow it down to just a few though - 400 thumbnails on a page looks pretty cool.
Should been there though man... sick show.
Best!
-Rob
p.s. There's a Slip show in there too... [url=lhttp://vtphotocreations.com/concertphotography/theslip/2006-03-03/index.htm]3/3/2006.[/url]
So bouche... how many shots do you think you would have taken? I got just under 400 myself. My server is only so big though, so I've gotta conserve space for more shows! I hate having to narrow it down to just a few though - 400 thumbnails on a page looks pretty cool.
Should been there though man... sick show.
Best!
-Rob
p.s. There's a Slip show in there too... [url=lhttp://vtphotocreations.com/concertphotography/theslip/2006-03-03/index.htm]3/3/2006.[/url]
400! Ok, I would have probably halved that. Even 200 is hard for me because I just want to take it in and Dance my ass of at Duo shows. So yeah, I was talking outta my ASS! Thanks for the fantastic photos VT!vtphotos wrote:Hey all - thanks for the cool comments... I took those shots.
So bouche... how many shots do you think you would have taken? I got just under 400 myself. My server is only so big though, so I've gotta conserve space for more shows! I hate having to narrow it down to just a few though - 400 thumbnails on a page looks pretty cool.
Should been there though man... sick show.
Best!
-Rob
p.s. There's a Slip show in there too... [url=lhttp://vtphotocreations.com/concertphotography/theslip/2006-03-03/index.htm]3/3/2006.[/url]
Please let me know how you would be willing to get me a print for my house. I'm willing to do a trade if you're interested. I'm no pro, but I have some excellent SMMD shots from the Higher Ground Apr. 2005 and other slip, duo, moe.down (with duo and gordon debut).
Also, if you have any info on your lenses...I would be interested in finding out more as I'm learning how to build the best possible live photography setup. I'm currently using a 1st generation Nikon D70 and my best low-light lens is one I got at a camera shop in B-town... a 50 mm 1.4 NIKKOR. I bought that on advice and it's kicked up my photography 10 fold.
OH and nice Slip photos as well! I wish I could have followed the slip from Montreal to Burlington.
Kick-ass photos!
Hey Rob,
Welcome to our little hole in the wall. Your photos are superb. I'd love to hear about what rig you were using for those. I'm a Canon guy and the low-F lenses help a lot...I also have a 50mm 1.4 I use quite a lot in nightclubs. I'm going to upgrade to some L lenses, but when I get the better body to go with it (looking at the Canon 5D, but waiting for the price to drop some more). Do you shoot full-frame? Please tell us more...it would be like getting lessons.
Thanks again and definitely let us know how we can order prints. I pay cash because I know the gear is super-pricey.
Picking through photos and posting the best ones is over half the effort. I'm going through a set of Karl Denson's Greyboy Allstars and having trouble deciding. Then there's all the cropping and resizing, thumbs and other fun stuff. Do you use any gallery software or other image utilities? I'm not so happy with the noise reducers in the paint programs. Do you have any favorite?
-Regards,
Phrazz
Welcome to our little hole in the wall. Your photos are superb. I'd love to hear about what rig you were using for those. I'm a Canon guy and the low-F lenses help a lot...I also have a 50mm 1.4 I use quite a lot in nightclubs. I'm going to upgrade to some L lenses, but when I get the better body to go with it (looking at the Canon 5D, but waiting for the price to drop some more). Do you shoot full-frame? Please tell us more...it would be like getting lessons.
Thanks again and definitely let us know how we can order prints. I pay cash because I know the gear is super-pricey.
Picking through photos and posting the best ones is over half the effort. I'm going through a set of Karl Denson's Greyboy Allstars and having trouble deciding. Then there's all the cropping and resizing, thumbs and other fun stuff. Do you use any gallery software or other image utilities? I'm not so happy with the noise reducers in the paint programs. Do you have any favorite?
-Regards,
Phrazz
Hey guys -
Let's see, I pretty much don't dance at shows, so when I go to a show, I go to listen first, of course, but def go to shoot the crap out of it too. I'm more of the head bobbin' type myself, which doesn't interfere with taking pictures. Well it could, but I just don't bob my head while I'm taking a picture.
I shoot with a Canon 20d in RAW format (not full frame), but I will probably have a 5D by years end. The Duo show was shot with a 70-200 2.8L IS, but I sometimes use a 24-70 2.8L. The L glass, especially with IS, makes a huge difference. I started with a 28-135 4.5 IS, but even with IS it struggled in low light places like Nectar's or the Higher Ground Showcase lounge. But don't get me wrong, you can make works of art with a point and shoot... a lot of it is in your eye and the composition of the shot. Better equipment does make it easier though. That 50mm 1.4 must kick ass. Primes are awesome, but I find them a little restricting at a concert. When HG is packed, it's nice to be able to work from the edges of the crowd, or even the rear of the room with a tele lens, rather than force my way into the crowd to adjust for distance. Sometimes I do though.
As for workflow..
I use breeze browser and downloader, they're two different programs by Chris Breeze. I use them for downloading from CF to computer, gallery viewing and html gallery generation.
Digital Photo Professional, or what ever it is that came with my camera for raw color adjustments and conversion to jpg.
Then if any editing is needed I use photoshop. With my older camera I used Fred Miranda noise filter plugins for photoshop and it worked great.
With the 20D I do not use any noise reduction software and at concerts I shoot at ISO=800-1600. The camera has fantastic filtering built in. As a matter of fact, 99.9% of the concert shots I put up are untouched in any way. No cropping, no color corrections, no editing of any sort. What you see is what happened when I pressed the shutter button. Sometimes I'll make one black and white or crop one, but rarely.
And as for selling prints... unfortunately I do not have signed releases from the band saying I can sell their images, so that would technically be considered illegal - as much as I wish I could sell them. I get lots of offers, but I can't afford to jeopardize anything so I just don't sell them. Perhaps a fair trade as bouche suggested? Or, you can just buy my coffee table book once I publish it! ; ^ )
So hey.... I hope I shed a little light for you!
Thanks for the interest.
Later.
Let's see, I pretty much don't dance at shows, so when I go to a show, I go to listen first, of course, but def go to shoot the crap out of it too. I'm more of the head bobbin' type myself, which doesn't interfere with taking pictures. Well it could, but I just don't bob my head while I'm taking a picture.
I shoot with a Canon 20d in RAW format (not full frame), but I will probably have a 5D by years end. The Duo show was shot with a 70-200 2.8L IS, but I sometimes use a 24-70 2.8L. The L glass, especially with IS, makes a huge difference. I started with a 28-135 4.5 IS, but even with IS it struggled in low light places like Nectar's or the Higher Ground Showcase lounge. But don't get me wrong, you can make works of art with a point and shoot... a lot of it is in your eye and the composition of the shot. Better equipment does make it easier though. That 50mm 1.4 must kick ass. Primes are awesome, but I find them a little restricting at a concert. When HG is packed, it's nice to be able to work from the edges of the crowd, or even the rear of the room with a tele lens, rather than force my way into the crowd to adjust for distance. Sometimes I do though.
As for workflow..
I use breeze browser and downloader, they're two different programs by Chris Breeze. I use them for downloading from CF to computer, gallery viewing and html gallery generation.
Digital Photo Professional, or what ever it is that came with my camera for raw color adjustments and conversion to jpg.
Then if any editing is needed I use photoshop. With my older camera I used Fred Miranda noise filter plugins for photoshop and it worked great.
With the 20D I do not use any noise reduction software and at concerts I shoot at ISO=800-1600. The camera has fantastic filtering built in. As a matter of fact, 99.9% of the concert shots I put up are untouched in any way. No cropping, no color corrections, no editing of any sort. What you see is what happened when I pressed the shutter button. Sometimes I'll make one black and white or crop one, but rarely.
And as for selling prints... unfortunately I do not have signed releases from the band saying I can sell their images, so that would technically be considered illegal - as much as I wish I could sell them. I get lots of offers, but I can't afford to jeopardize anything so I just don't sell them. Perhaps a fair trade as bouche suggested? Or, you can just buy my coffee table book once I publish it! ; ^ )
So hey.... I hope I shed a little light for you!
Thanks for the interest.
Later.
Muchas Garcias for the tecchie info
Hey Rob,
I soaked it all up and took good notes...understanding most of it. I guess I have to splurge on some newer gear. You can see the clarity, that's gotta be the flourite talkin'. That 2.8L IS is no small investment, but to be able to shoot so far away is definitely worth the small financial hit to avoid the hassle. It's real tough getting up close these days.
At the Karl D. show some girl said before I even got my camera out of the bag "that's my husband's spot" and I was still near the ground and chuckled since it wasn't even crowded yet for the opener. I explained I'd only be there about 3 minutes max., it's a club and everyone buys a ticket, she then explained she was "much older than me" and I stood up and laughed out loud at her. I said, "I doubt it, honey" and for once I was proud of my age (I had her beat by 7 years, that almost shut her up).
Then some bouncer saw my SLR and said "no pro cameras"...I explained to three different door guys said it was ok but "no flash" and he still didn't believe me so I had to move from my precious temporary spot go all the way to the door and I got there first. He was looking around for me and I already explained to the door guys...the bouncer was a little embarrassed to learn the photo policy is posted right outside the door for each night (and it's different, depending on the artist).
So Fred Miranda has his own noise plugins? He's a great photographer and I check out his site a lot for tips and tricks. I guess I have to upgrade to PhotoShop since it has a large suite of plug-ins. More money to spend, but I guess I can justify if I start shooting weddings (for pay instead of for fun...I've shot 4 weddings already but only for friends and family). Or if Jann Wenner returns my emails. ;-} I'll check out the Breeze s/w too. I hear Canon's working on a wi-fi transmitter...maybe camera-attached. That would be super cool but there's also palm-PCs which do that now. Would be cool to resize and upload the smaller images on the fly. I guess also I'll start doing more RAW shooting. I took a bunch at the Met (NYC) and they came out fantastic, but the extra processing time and huge sizes were a big hindrance and just about tripled post-production time. But maybe if they're near "perfect" that means less tweaking.
I'll wait for the coffee table book or trade some tasty shows. Email me your snail mail (phrazzATgmail) and I'll send some CDs. Let me know if you can read DVDs, FLAC or SHN, etc.
Looks like the 5D is the natural progression...the specs on it are great, hopefully the noise is super clean like the others. I was considering either the 4L 70-200 but I think you talked me into the image stabilization. I bob around too and sometimes even try to dance (hard with all the gear), but you also get the floor shake in some places...worse in the balconies. I recall a Phish show at Boston Garden where if you stood still and locked your knees you'd get launched into the air a couple inches! Not condusive to camera-phone photography for sure, I think the IS would help a lot in that kind of "combat" situation.
-Thanks a ton,
Phrazz
I soaked it all up and took good notes...understanding most of it.
I guess I have to splurge on some newer gear. You can see the clarity, that's gotta be the flourite talkin'. That 2.8L IS is no small investment, but to be able to shoot so far away is definitely worth the small financial hit to avoid the hassle. It's real tough getting up close these days.At the Karl D. show some girl said before I even got my camera out of the bag "that's my husband's spot" and I was still near the ground and chuckled since it wasn't even crowded yet for the opener. I explained I'd only be there about 3 minutes max., it's a club and everyone buys a ticket, she then explained she was "much older than me" and I stood up and laughed out loud at her. I said, "I doubt it, honey" and for once I was proud of my age (I had her beat by 7 years, that almost shut her up).
Then some bouncer saw my SLR and said "no pro cameras"...I explained to three different door guys said it was ok but "no flash" and he still didn't believe me so I had to move from my precious temporary spot go all the way to the door and I got there first. He was looking around for me and I already explained to the door guys...the bouncer was a little embarrassed to learn the photo policy is posted right outside the door for each night (and it's different, depending on the artist).
So Fred Miranda has his own noise plugins? He's a great photographer and I check out his site a lot for tips and tricks. I guess I have to upgrade to PhotoShop since it has a large suite of plug-ins. More money to spend, but I guess I can justify if I start shooting weddings (for pay instead of for fun...I've shot 4 weddings already but only for friends and family). Or if Jann Wenner returns my emails. ;-} I'll check out the Breeze s/w too. I hear Canon's working on a wi-fi transmitter...maybe camera-attached. That would be super cool but there's also palm-PCs which do that now. Would be cool to resize and upload the smaller images on the fly. I guess also I'll start doing more RAW shooting. I took a bunch at the Met (NYC) and they came out fantastic, but the extra processing time and huge sizes were a big hindrance and just about tripled post-production time. But maybe if they're near "perfect" that means less tweaking.
I'll wait for the coffee table book or trade some tasty shows. Email me your snail mail (phrazzATgmail) and I'll send some CDs. Let me know if you can read DVDs, FLAC or SHN, etc.
Looks like the 5D is the natural progression...the specs on it are great, hopefully the noise is super clean like the others. I was considering either the 4L 70-200 but I think you talked me into the image stabilization. I bob around too and sometimes even try to dance (hard with all the gear), but you also get the floor shake in some places...worse in the balconies. I recall a Phish show at Boston Garden where if you stood still and locked your knees you'd get launched into the air a couple inches! Not condusive to camera-phone photography for sure, I think the IS would help a lot in that kind of "combat" situation.
-Thanks a ton,
Phrazz
I'm now looking at the Nikon version of a Tele lens like that. I'll post what I find to see if that's what I should be looking for. I really do need a solution to get decent photos from a distance.
Sometimes wrestling for room at the front is just not possible, especially at the Ottawa Bluesfest as there is an army of 'music fans' that setup lawn chairs only to make noise if anyone is standing, dancing, having fun, taking photos at the rail...etc.
Sometimes wrestling for room at the front is just not possible, especially at the Ottawa Bluesfest as there is an army of 'music fans' that setup lawn chairs only to make noise if anyone is standing, dancing, having fun, taking photos at the rail...etc.
aha! Nikon version of an image stabilizing zoom lens
Now if I could only get a price so I can start saving!
Now if I could only get a price so I can start saving!