Im not gunna give up on this post...

[Colin]

It is my goal to finish my very own andrew barr 'trash' cymbal before the end of summer. I need from people the correct ingredients to make the cymbal heard on songs such as get me with fuji, sometimes true to nothing, and (most of all) chasing rabbits. I have got responses in the past on the old board (RIP) of what the cymbal may have included but i wanna build it as close as i possibly can to the original cymbal, even if it means crackin' a few. Feel free to respond even if it's just a wild guess what its made from.

[Pstehley]

why don't you try and email droo

[Colin]

i sent an email to him a while back but never got a response. possibly it did not reach him cus i may have sent it to the wrong email. ill give it second try. thanks

[tyler]

maybe it's a trade secret and he will never give up the ingredients.

[Dan]

what's it look like

[Katie]

I'm not sure I know which one you're talking about, but I just remembered an interesting cymbal highligted in one of my favorite pictures I've ever taken of The Slip. It's from 11/22/03, so it was likely used on those songs then.
<img src="http://images4.fotki.com/v48/photos/1/1 ... REW-vi.jpg">

[Dan]

the kit is so much more diverse there

nice

[Colin]

i believe that may indeed be the cymbal. look to the right of the high hats, i love that thing soo much -- andrew's "synare". I gotta pick me one of those up.

[Pstehley]

no I believe your talking about the broken crash sitting on top of the box.. surrounded by a couple of shakers.. but so far as I know that's all it was...

[etahn]

I think it was an old cracked china with a couple of cowbells, some goat toenails, maybe some of those Indian ankle bells. If you're looking for that sound, I'd try taking any old cymbal and piling a bunch of crap on it.

[GeMeNeYe]

I think Etahn hit the nail--er, cymbal--on the head--er, bell.

If you're talking about the sound he used to get that was kind of a like a hip-hop sounding snare, except much lighter and more tinny than an actual snare drum (for example, on the bridge/middle funked-out section of Ernie Mickey on Scullers 1998) -- I believe he had a china-boy (broken or not) sitting upside down on a flat surface, with a cowbell sitting in the middle of it -- when you hit the cowbell, bingo. He may have had some other stuff underneath the cymbal both for muffling and stablitity. Cool-ass sound, though. Dig it!



Gem

[Colin]

thats what i thought i head before from someone in the past
thanks

[Colin]

I stacked (in order from bottom to top):

cowbell
meinl 8" drumbal
piece of tin foil
sabian 6" splash (that i hammered the hell out of)
several large leather seeds (like the ones you see andrew or illy b shake at a microphone)

and i am still seeing how much more i can get stacked...